Floyd

Research Notes on the Northern Illawarra Floyd Family

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The Floyd,  family of Bulli – Woonona – Helensburgh,were known as Publicans of Woonona, Bulli & Helensburgh from 1862. Members of the family also became Butchers in Bulli, Woonona and Thirroul.

The family were known to own property in Old Bulli, around Bulli Beach and Farrell Road Bulli, while some also lived in Woonona and Helensburgh.

In 1869 John Floyd bought 1869 -1 Purchase record - Land Titles

John Floyd opened the Railway Hotel opposite Hobart St Bulli beside the Bulli Coal Company’s tram line – which ran through the village to the jetty on  Bulli (now Sandon) Point – in 1870 – see Thematic History of the City of Wollongong – FINAL REPORT. The Railway Hotel, wa also dubbed the Miners Arms, and was the first inn to be licensed in Old Bulli with the first licensee being John Floyd, followed by Phil Dwyer, Patrick d’Arcy and Laurence d’Arcy, before its closure in 1913. Reliant on the coaching traffic like the Denmark Hotel, the Railway Hotel trade had also been impacted by the completion of the Railway from Sydney through to Kiama and competition from George Croft’s hotel in New Bulli. It became a boarding house also. Bulli Heritage Trail.

Bulli – Floyd’s Point, by which name Waniora Point was known, was used for sports meetings but in April 1886 Bulli public park was taken in trust by Archibald Campbell of Wollongong as trustee. After successful efforts by H.S. Fry 25 acres between the railway station and the sea, of which Farrell had been the lessee, were purchased from G. Croft at £45 per acre for public purposes. Croft gave the land for the extension of Park Road to the seaside at Trinity Row…. The Bulli Rifle Club was formed in May 1889 and soon had 40 members . The club sought the rifle range but George Adams refused to allow the use of the old range when he took over. Floyd asked too much for the land near Floyd’s Point (Waniora Point) and a site at Bellambi was considered too far away. The range closed in 1900 but was eventually reopened … The Bulli baths at Floyd’s Rocks were built in 1903, certain hours being set aside for ladies and others for gentlemen in the early years. – Black Diamonds

Land in that area remained in the family until at least 1900 – with lots advertised in a subdivision for sale there in September 1900, this followed the passing of Rose Floyd nee Griffin, widow of John Floyd. Plan below is from 23.6.1900 – Charles Morton, C.E. Surveyor

Capture

August 1900 – Mr. H. F. Cotterell reports having conducted a very successful sale in connection with the Floyd estate on Tuesday, when the household furniture and effects and cattle were disposed of. Prices obtained for the last named were as follows : Springers at £6 7s 6d, £3 15s, £4 10s, £2 17s 6d, £6 5s each ; two heifers, £4 2s ; milker, £1 78. Poultry fetched 2s lid jier pair, while the family piano realised £40. The farm was divided and lots drawn by the family for the various

blocks.
August 1900 – The Floyd Estate has been duly divided among the members of the family in a way unusual, but which leaves no ground for grumbling. The land was divided into six portions, and on Monday evening lots were drawn for them. Mr. Jas. Floyd, Helensburgh,
 got the house with 4 1/2 acres, and will live there.

In 1912 Peter Floyd sought Indefeasible Title to Land in Bulli:

NOTICE UNDER REAL PROPERTY ACT – APPLICATIONS having been made to bring the lands hereunder described under the provisions of the Real Property Act Certificates of Indefeasible Title will issue unless Caveats be lodged in accordance with the Third Schedule to the said Act, on or before the 22nd JANUARY 1913-
Bulli – LAND County Cumberland parish Woonona shire Bulli 19 acres 3 roods 32 3/4 perches at Waniora Point Bulli part lot 6A partition of Floyd’s Estate and part 100 acres (portion 126 parish), granted to George Tate adjoining property of T Farrell.
However he passed away, soon after in 1913 – his farmhouse was located at what is now 76 Farrell Road.
Mick Roberts wrote in 2014: Peter Floyd … inherited 20 acres of land fronting Bulli beach, stretching westward to the South Coast railway, between Owen Street and Farrell Road, north to Bulli Park. His farm house sat on the hill, off the northern side, at 76 Farrell Road. … Just months before his death at the young age of 47 on April 17 1913, Peter donated three acres or 1.2ha of land fronting the beach to Bulli Shire Council for public recreation. It wasn’t Peter’s first donation to the Shire, with the wealthy bachelor giving land for a road on the eastern boundary of his property to access the Bulli sea baths.”
After Peter Floyd’s  passing in April 1913, his land was subdivided into 8 lots and auctioned by H Cotterell.
When Mick Roberts wrote the above in 2014, Peter Floyd’s farmhouse at No. 76 Farrell Rd Bulli still existed, however by 2023 it had been redeveloped. Below is from RealEstate.com.au – on the market in 2020
In 1913 Mary Floyd sought Title to Land in Bulli
NOTICE UNDER REAL PROPERTY ACT. APPLICATIONS having been made to bring the lands hereunder described under the provisions of the Real Property Act, Certificates of Indefeasible Title will issue, unless Caveats be lodged in accordance with the Third Schedule to the said Act on or before the 5th November, 1913: 
No, 18,667. APPLICANT:—Mary Floyd, Bulli. LAND :—County Camden, parish Wonona, shire Bulli, 4 acres 22 3/4 perches, junction Main South Coast Railway and Cemetery-road,—lot 1a, Floyd’sEstate, and part 100 acres (portion 126, parish), granted to George Tate; adjoining properties of R. A. Ball and Chief Commissioner for Railways and Tramways.
In 1918, Cotterell offered land from the Floyd Estate for sale
FOR SALE, LOT 70, 50×150. Torrens. Terms Given. FLOYD’S ESTATE, Farrell’s Road, BULLI. Lots splendidly placed, from 12/6 per foot, on low deposit and len(g)thy terms. COTTERELL, District Auctioneer, Bulli
From  1918 – 1920 there were land sales of the Floyd’s Estate lot, and during the 1920’s cottages were also offered for sale.
NOTIFICATION OF RESUMPTION OF LAND UNDER THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT ACT, 1919. IN pursuance of section 536 (4) of the Local Government Act, 1919, and under Division 1, Part “V, of the Public Works Act, 1912. I notify that so much of the land hereunder described as is Crown land is hereby appropriated and so much thereof as is private property is hereby resumed for road-construction purposes; and I further notify that the said land is hereby vested in the Bulli Shire Council. Dated this thirty-first day of December, 1928.
E. A. BUTTENSHAW, Minister for Public Works.
Description of Land Referred to.
All that piece or parcel of land situate in the Shire of Bulli, parish of Wonona, county of Camden and State of New South Wales, comprising part of Lot 2a, Floyd Estate, being a subdivision of portion 126: Commencing on an eastern boundary of the Railway lands from Wollongong to Sydney at the north-western corner or Lot 15, deposited plan 8,530; and bounded thence on the west and north-west by eastern and south-eastern boundaries of the said Railway land and the south eastern sides of a road of variable width being lines
successively bearing 1 degree 10 minutes 10 seconds 21 feet inches, 24 degre’es 52 minutes 208 feet 8i inches and 8 degrees 47 minutes 722 feet 3£ inches to the southern side of a lane of variable width; on the north by that side of that lane bearing 90 degrees 9 minutes 10 seconds 17 feet inches; on the south-east by lines successively bearing 188 degrees 47 minutes 846 feet 4* inches and 197 degrees 44 minutes 10 seconds 92 –feet inches to the north-eastern corner of the said lot 15, and on the south by the northern boundary of that lot bearing 269 degrees 56 minutes 30 seconds 58 feet 3 inches to the point of, commencement, having an area of 2 roods 0£ perch or thereabouts and said to be in* the possession of the estate of Rose Ann Ball. EMisc, 19^8.7,403] [3279] – note Roe Ann Ball nee Floyd
In 1944 John Vicars had  purchased part of the Floyd estate – “From J. Stuart Thom and Co., solicitors submitting an application for the subdivision of Lot 2A, Floyds Estate,Bulli, part of which was being purchased by John Vicars and Co. for their factory. Following a

suggestion by the engineer the subdivision was altered to permit council to extend Wilcath street to join up with The Avenue.— The revised subdivision was approved,”

Floyd’s – Butchers

    • J Floyd Butcher of Bulli in 1873 – 1, 2
    • J Floyd Butcher of Bulli in 1874 – 1,
    • J Floyd & W Floyd playing cricket for Bulli Butchers in 1893 – 1,
    • James Floyd a butcher in Thirroul in 1923
    • 1919 – J Floyd butcher of Bulli is seeking an employee – 1,
    • negotiating for a site for a Slaughter yard at Copes Bush – 1926 – 1,

In 1928 F M Floyd was in strife with Bulli Shire Council regarding his slaughter yard.

1931 – James Floyd was a Councillor on Bulli Shire Council – 1,

In 1945 there was a Councillor J Floyd on Bulli Shire Council – 1,

1951 – Councillor Floyd on Bulli Shire Council – 1,

In the mid 1990’s there were still many charming weatherboard properties in the south western area of Farrell Rd Bulli, around 87 –  91 Farrell Rd and to the east, viz in the vicinity of Bulli Workers Club. These old weatherboard properties had been colourfully painted.  However sadly some of these were lost with the resumptions associated with the construction of the Northern Distributor – Memorial Drive.

In 2023, our Museum received inquiries about properties in the vicinity of 92 – 96 Farrell Road Bulli, Franklin Avenue,  Thompson Street, and Rixon Avenue.

Floyd – Griffin Family Tree

John Floyd, OS Ordinary Seaman, aged 17 years, was believed to have been born in Yorkshire, and arrived in the NSW Colony in 1861 on the Caroline Hort.

John Floyd (1830-1839? Yorkshire – 1881) married in 1863 to Rose Ann Griffin (1846 – 1900), who had arrived as an assisted immigrant from Scotland in 1860 on the Chance with her parents and sister Margaret. They had seven children:

  • James Floyd (1864 – 1930) married Mary Sharples – the Helensburgh branch of the Floyd family
    • John Floyd (1885 – 1885)
    • Grace Agnes Floyd (1889 – 1964) married Luke Cairns
      • Thomas John Cairns (1909 – 1978)
      • James Francis Cairns (1911 – 1963)
      • Monica Josephine Cairns (1913 – 2008)
      • William Cyril Cairns (1917 – 1972)
      • Luke Cairns (1925 – 1970)
    • William James Floyd (1890 – 1936) married Mary Theresa Gertude Wells (1904 – 1972)
      • Mary Theresa Floyd (1927 – 2014) married Laurence Joseph Russo
      • Patricia Kathleen Floyd
    • John Francis Floyd (1892 – 1964) married Ellen Minnie Oke
      • Iris Eveline Floyd (1914 – 1970)
      • Gwendoline Rose Floyd (1916 – 1970)
      • Alice Frances Enid Floyd (1918 – 1976)
    • May Floyd (1894 – 1980) married Robert Haines Marshall
      • Mary Marshall (1914 – 1999)
      • Robert Floyd Marshall (1915 – 1993)
    • Rose Lavinia Floyd (1896 – ) married Alfred Charles Robinson
    • Thomas Gallaway Floyd (1901 – 1961) married Doris Sophia Harding
      • Nancy Catherine Ann Floyd (1921 – 1966) married Harold Victor Spearman
      • Geoffrey Bruce Gallaway Floyd (1927 – 2012) married Doris Crossley
        • Pamella Anne Floyd (1964 – 2000)
    • Hilda May Floyd (1902 – 1987) married Charles Alfred Olsen
      • Alfred William Olsen (1921 – 1993)
      • Edwin James Olsen (1924 – 1999)
      • Carl Albert Olsen (1926 – )
      • Hilda Marie Olsen (1929 – )
      • Vincent Charles Olsen (1931 – 1985)
  • Peter Floyd (1866 – 1913) – Bachelor never married
  • Grace Floyd (1868 – 1945) – married Henry Gough first and William Bradshaw second
    • Grace Gough (1888 – 1888)
    • Rose A Gough (1889 – 1970)
    • Grace Gough (1891 – )
    • Henry Gough (1893 – 1982)
    • Lilly A Gough (1897 – 1942)
    • Daisy L Gough (1903 – 1936)
  • John Francis Floyd (1870 – 1919 buried St Augustines Bulli) married Florence Maud Collings (see Robyn Bray’s Tree of Us) , daughter of James Collings and Sarah Stevens; James Collings’ brother John Collings married Mary Jane Hicks 
    • Rupert Fleming James Floyd (1889 – 1966)
    • Elsie Floyd (1892 – 1985)
    • John Floyd (1894 – 1952)
    • Florence Floyd (1896 – 1897)
    • Muriel Floyd (1899 – 1982)
    • Hilda Floyd (1901 – 1995)
    • Florence Maud Floyd (1903 – )
    • Lavinia Rose Floyd (1908 – 1994)
    • Sarah Alice Floyd (1910 – 2004)
  • William Phillip Floyd (1876 – 1954) married in 1906 to Ruby Elsie Dear (1882 – 1915) – he lived at 43 Farrell Rd Bulli – no children?
  • Rose Anne Floyd (1877 -1923) married Richard William Thomas Ball (1873 – 1957), son of Thomas James Noah Ball (1852 – 1958) and Hannah Evans (1854 – 1914) – see Ball family of Woonona
    • William Peter Ball (1899 Woonona – 1974 Wynnum ? Queensland) married Catherine Isabel Goddard (1897 – 1972)
      • 2 children
    • Doris Rose Martin nee Ball (1902 Woonona – 1998 Canberra) married Stanley Winton Earl Martin (1901 – 1974)
    • Irene Reenie Collins nee Ball (1907 Woonona – 1997)  married Edward Charles Collins – previously married to  John Percy Martin brother of Stanley Winton Earl Martin ?
      • Other children of John Percy Martin ?
      • Edwina Collins (1943 – )
    • Thomas John Ball (1910 Woonona – 1966 Brisbane ) married Margaret Mary Beckham (1917 – 2000)
      • possibly 6 children
    • Oswald Ball (1912 Woonona – Ravenshoe Queensland ?) married in 1939 in Queensland to Thelma May Knight  – divorced in Ravenshoe in 1946.
    • Arthur K Ball (1916 Bulli – 2005 ? ) married Jean Eileen Moylan ? – Arthur served in WW2 Q65046 at Fort Lytton, Brisbane area. Was he also in the Ravenshoe area ?
  • Henry Matthew Floyd (1880 – 1880)

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